Traeger forces app update

[CMTiger]

I think updating your phone since it’s been so long will definitely help. Hopefully you’ll get it worked out. I absolutely hate how technology is changing so fast and they expect us to just know this stuff. I really miss the 1980s

This is true. I mean even if he couldn’t update to the latest version then updating it to whatever version he could may help.

 

[CMTiger]

CM Tiger. I guess I’m just a little stubborn here but why do I care that Apple won’t let me update to THEIR most current operating system. I’m perfectly happy running the one that has worked for years.
I guess I’m just hanging onto my old work life where I had to attempt to breathe life into outdated equipment as updating would have been prohibitively costly. I never thought of myself as a dinosaur but I guess I am.
I keep and repair my vehicles for decades. I catch fish on the same tackle that my dad used. I hunt with a bow and arrow.
All those things work for me but I’m finding that in today’s world I gotta get good with throwing away perfectly functional equipment so I can have new equipment that looks cooler. The new stuff isn’t going to grill my chicken any better but I’m going to look good doing it.

I just think you’re misguided in placing all the blame on Traeger if you’re iOS is several generations/versions old.

 

[GaryC]

the App Store isn’t allowing any version of update. I guess it’s time to set aside my old phone that works for everything else.
I understand that it’s beyond its design lifespan, It’s just a bitter pill to swallow when someone tells me that it’s too old and throw it away.
Heck, I’m too old so let’s not be hasty.
That and the money for a new phone reduces the boat fuel budget and the tuna are biting.

 

[CMTiger]

the App Store isn’t allowing any version of update. I guess it’s time to set aside my old phone that works for everything else.
I understand that it’s beyond its design lifespan, It’s just a bitter pill to swallow when someone tells me that it’s too old and throw it away.
Heck, I’m too old so let’s not be hasty.
That and the money for a new phone reduces the boat fuel budget and the tuna are biting.

My iPad mini quit being able to support my streaming apps last summer. I get it. It’s annoying.

 

[GaryC]

You guys are costing me money.
Now I just gotta decide which phone I should get.
As you can see I tend to hang onto things so my first thought is to get the latest version so it’s supported as long as possible.
And advice?

 

[CMTiger]

You guys are costing me money.
Now I just gotta decide which phone I should get.
As you can see I tend to hang onto things so my first thought is to get the latest version so it’s supported as long as possible.
And advice?

Well I just upgraded my iPhone 7 not that long ago…..to the 13. That’s what I do too. Upgrade to the newest one when I finally pull the trigger.

 

[Shedd]

the App Store isn’t allowing any version of update. I guess it’s time to set aside my old phone that works for everything else.
I understand that it’s beyond its design lifespan, It’s just a bitter pill to swallow when someone tells me that it’s too old and throw it away.
Heck, I’m too old so let’s not be hasty.
That and the money for a new phone reduces the boat fuel budget and the tuna are biting.

Life sure gets complicated and forces us to pick and choose what’s most important, sucks I completely get it. Hopefully you’ll find a way to keep your 6 and get it to work. Grilling is important but dang I bet it’s awesome when the Tuna are biting good. Sounds like a lot of fun. Good luck with both. Post up some tuna pics!

 

[JPSBBQ]

I just think you’re misguided in placing all the blame on Traeger if you’re iOS is several generations/versions old.

Yes. They have to keep moving forward if you wish to stay behind then that’s your personal choice. To be surprised in 2023 by these sorta things is pretty disingenuous and self inflicted. The tech companies do not support staying behind and you either get on board or you don’t. Good news, you can use it without any Wi-Fi I believe.

 

[J Mike]

You guys are costing me money.
Now I just gotta decide which phone I should get.
As you can see I tend to hang onto things so my first thought is to get the latest version so it’s supported as long as possible.
And advice?

I have the 6 SE. It still worked a month ago, haven't tried it lately. I'm on Straight Talk and always buy my iPhone at Walmart. I've never bought the latest, greatest model though. Usually the one they sell cheap on Black Friday. Like yours, mine does everything I need and does it well. I don't upgrade phones until I have to.

 

[GaryC]

Yes. They have to keep moving forward if you wish to stay behind then that’s your personal choice. To be surprised in 2023 by these sorta things is pretty disingenuous and self inflicted. The tech companies do not support staying behind and you either get on board or you don’t. Good news, you can use it without any Wi-Fi I believe.

JPSBBQ. I’m not going to agree with you.
Let’s say that you bought a new Tesla and had you house wired with whatever charging system THEY RECOMMENDED as working for that car.
Everything is good for a year and then somebody decides that you would be better served with a new style of charging system and reprogram your car remotely without your permission to no longer work with the home plug that you have. You can still charge down at the Walmart if you want but not at home. You still have the same car and the same charger but a better one is out now
You can upgrade at your cost or you loose the feature of charging at home.
They did this for your better good.
Your Tesla is still under warranty but they changed how it operates and left you behind. There’s nothing wrong with your home charger but it no longer works with your car and you are left with the bill to upgrade your charger.
Would you say that’s fair to you who just purchased your car and outfitted your infrastructure to service it AFTER they suggested what to install in the beginning?
Would you say that your charging issue is self inflicted?
My grill, which is still under warranty, no longer works with my still working infrastructure because somebody decided that it be so.
I have no problem with technology moving forward. What I have a problem with is technology moving forward without regard to what issues it may cause.
Am I really out of line to think that a bbq that I purchased would not continue to work as it did when purchased?
Sure, create an upgraded operating system, I have no problem with that.
Just honor your agreement to continue to support your existing equipment.
I didn’t buy the latest and greatest technical device. I purchased a bbq not a security system that needs constantly upgraded to combat new threats.

 

[JPSBBQ]

JPSBBQ. I’m not going to agree with you.
Let’s say that you bought a new Tesla and had you house wired with whatever charging system THEY RECOMMENDED as working for that car.
Everything is good for a year and then somebody decides that you would be better served with a new style of charging system and reprogram your car remotely without your permission to no longer work with the home plug that you have. You can still charge down at the Walmart if you want but not at home. You still have the same car and the same charger but a better one is out now
You can upgrade at your cost or you loose the feature of charging at home.
They did this for your better good.
Your Tesla is still under warranty but they changed how it operates and left you behind. There’s nothing wrong with your home charger but it no longer works with your car and you are left with the bill to upgrade your charger.
Would you say that’s fair to you who just purchased your car and outfitted your infrastructure to service it AFTER they suggested what to install in the beginning?
Would you say that your charging issue is self inflicted?
My grill, which is still under warranty, no longer works with my still working infrastructure because somebody decided that it be so.
I have no problem with technology moving forward. What I have a problem with is technology moving forward without regard to what issues it may cause.
Am I really out of line to think that a bbq that I purchased would not continue to work as it did when purchased?
Sure, create an upgraded operating system, I have no problem with that.
Just honor your agreement to continue to support your existing equipment.
I didn’t buy the latest and greatest technical device. I purchased a bbq not a security system that needs constantly upgraded to combat new threats.

It’s a phone not a car.
Also, it’s the tech companies that do not support old apps. There are cars out there that their tech ran on 3g tech which do not run now as they are no longer supported. Volvo models for example. It happens. The manufacturer has no choice in the matter. Be thankful it’s not your car. The basic functions still work. If you don’t want to participate in the tech revolution don’t buy the tech. I get that it’s an inconvenience, but just get a fairly current phone. Problem solved.

 

[GaryC]

It’s a phone not a car.
Also, it’s the tech companies that do not support old apps. There are cars out there that their tech ran on 3g tech which do not run now as they are no longer supported. Volvo models for example. It happens. The manufacturer has no choice in the matter. Be thankful it’s not your car. The basic functions still work. If you don’t want to participate in the tech revolution don’t buy the tech. I get that it’s an inconvenience, but just get a fair

In my mind not supporting old apps is different than disabling old apps to force the user into a new app.
In volvos case they didn’t disable the features a third party did. I’ll bet Volvo was not thrilled about what it did to the function of their product. Otherwise they could have disabled them before it was forced on them by a third party.
Traeger chose to disable the features on my bbq not a third party.
I understand a new phone will fix the issue but I still don’t like being FORCED to upgrade my phone so I can get beat color shifting background on my bbq app.

 

[GaryC]

In my mind not supporting old apps is different than disabling old apps to force the user into a new app.
In volvos case they didn’t disable the features a third party did. I’ll bet Volvo was not thrilled about what it did to the function of their product. Otherwise they could have disabled them before it was forced on them by a third party.
Traeger chose to disable the features on my bbq not a third party.
I understand a new phone will fix the issue but I still don’t like being FORCED to upgrade my phone so I can get beat color shifting background on my bbq app.

I manufacture and sell a product for security systems and it was developed using 3G technology. I got caught when 3G went dark and still had some units in service. These were units that were well out of warranty but still within their service life expectancy.
I upgraded at my cost most of those units still in service at that time. Wasn’t my fault, wasn’t the customers fault but in the interest of good customer service and future sales I felt this was a cost that should fall on me and not my customers.
Traeger did not need to kill the old app when they created a new one, they chose to. That’s a failure on them.

 

[JPSBBQ]

I manufacture and sell a product for security systems and it was developed using 3G technology. I got caught when 3G went dark and still had some units in service. These were units that were well out of warranty but still within their service life expectancy.
I upgraded at my cost most of those units still in service at that time. Wasn’t my fault, wasn’t the customers fault but in the interest of good customer service and future sales I felt this was a cost that should fall on me and not my customers.
Traeger did not need to kill the old app when they created a new one, they chose to. That’s a failure on them.

How many? couple hundred thousand of them? You win. I do assume it’s a bit more convoluted than you surmised it but hey, you get to decide what to do. Go ahead and get a new grill. I sure as heck wouldn’t upgrade my phone for a few bucks. No way!

 

[CMTiger]

JPSBBQ. I’m not going to agree with you.
Let’s say that you bought a new Tesla and had you house wired with whatever charging system THEY RECOMMENDED as working for that car.
Everything is good for a year and then somebody decides that you would be better served with a new style of charging system and reprogram your car remotely without your permission to no longer work with the home plug that you have. You can still charge down at the Walmart if you want but not at home. You still have the same car and the same charger but a better one is out now
You can upgrade at your cost or you loose the feature of charging at home.
They did this for your better good.
Your Tesla is still under warranty but they changed how it operates and left you behind. There’s nothing wrong with your home charger but it no longer works with your car and you are left with the bill to upgrade your charger.
Would you say that’s fair to you who just purchased your car and outfitted your infrastructure to service it AFTER they suggested what to install in the beginning?
Would you say that your charging issue is self inflicted?
My grill, which is still under warranty, no longer works with my still working infrastructure because somebody decided that it be so.
I have no problem with technology moving forward. What I have a problem with is technology moving forward without regard to what issues it may cause.
Am I really out of line to think that a bbq that I purchased would not continue to work as it did when purchased?
Sure, create an upgraded operating system, I have no problem with that.
Just honor your agreement to continue to support your existing equipment.
I didn’t buy the latest and greatest technical device. I purchased a bbq not a security system that needs constantly upgraded to combat new threats.

You don’t own the Traeger app and it wasn’t purchased so the analogy isn’t really spot on.

Man I get your frustration, but what your aren’t experiencing right now isn’t traegers fault and it’s going to keep happening over time to you if you keep that phone you have unless the other apps you use are basic apps like calculator, Mail, etc. Go find someone with a Disney+ account and try and let them use it on your phone. It will not work. It used to of course, but suddenly stopped without warning when you stopped being apple to update Apple phones of certain age……and people pay for Disney+